tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7938459117789143606.post8661139222255953022..comments2023-09-30T04:38:22.123-05:00Comments on Peter Von Brown: P.J. Hogan's Boy Who Never Grew UpPeter Von Brownhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15042839698693906854noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7938459117789143606.post-14180670371611172222010-03-01T12:04:42.947-06:002010-03-01T12:04:42.947-06:00Well, the fact of Tinker Bell being included doesn...Well, the fact of Tinker Bell being included doesn't really explain why they cut that scene out, but you're right--the other reason still cuts out the heart of Barrie because it's inconsistent with what they wanted to add to it.... XP<br /><br />Besides, if they want to talk about heartlessness, how about Peter NEVER GOING TO SEE WENDY AGAIN?Anonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7938459117789143606.post-31805183805193120412010-03-01T11:30:39.201-06:002010-03-01T11:30:39.201-06:00Anon -
Interesting theory. And a good thought in...Anon -<br /><br />Interesting theory. And a good thought in general (as far as over-analyzing [not meant as a bad thing] goes.)<br /><br />But as I recall, they gave the reason for not including it on the DVD. First, the inclusion of Tinker Bell in the scene (the deleted scene) is because her revival in the film had been one of the most powerful parts of the film. Second, the (film) kiss shared between Peter & Wendy, as they saw it, could not be undermined by having it so it "meant nothing" to Pan by simply (heartlessly?) taking another girl (regardless of it being Wendy's daughter) instead. In other words, they felt including <i>When Wendy Grew Up</i> detracted from the 'power' and 'tenderness' of their kiss scene.<br /><br />Which, of course (at least to me) misses and negates one of the most salient aspects/themes of Barrie's story.Peter Von Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15042839698693906854noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7938459117789143606.post-82172374361152873752010-03-01T01:28:58.636-06:002010-03-01T01:28:58.636-06:00Sorry this is so late in getting to you, but it ju...Sorry this is so late in getting to you, but it just occurred to me:<br /><br />It seems the reason Hogan got rid of "When Wendy Grew Up" was for consistency's sake--granted, the grown Wendy has a daughter and presumably a husband, but once they introduced the idea that Hook (a grownup) can fly, there's no reason a grownup Wendy can't, unless it's that she doesn't want to and being a grownup has a will too strong for Peter....<br /><br />I just don't like it when they change canon to make things consistent with some new idea--like in "Peter Pan in Scarlet."Anonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7938459117789143606.post-63802423009419066452009-02-19T19:38:00.000-06:002009-02-19T19:38:00.000-06:00I know, I know... I just haven't given up hope ^^"...I know, I know... I just haven't given up hope ^^<BR/><BR/>"Thus perished James Hook", what if Barrie turned his head just in time not to see Hook escape?<BR/><BR/>Nah I know he is dead as can be, I read Barrie's speech about him and he confirmed it, but still...Lewelyn-Hhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03715000519128992905noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7938459117789143606.post-87506551446971998962009-02-19T19:33:00.000-06:002009-02-19T19:33:00.000-06:00Well, since my novel takes place after the events ...Well, since my novel takes place after the events of <I>Peter and Wendy</I>, Hook is already dead. ;)Peter Von Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15042839698693906854noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7938459117789143606.post-54352588119043569592009-02-19T19:26:00.000-06:002009-02-19T19:26:00.000-06:00Oh good, I thought I was making things up...I have...Oh good, I thought I was making things up...<BR/>I have to admit that I only noticed this detail a couple of weeks ago, and I do agree about the fact that the only way to tell the time on the Never Land is via the crocodile (I love the fact that Peter "brings back" the right time for Wendy ^^)<BR/><BR/>So Hook does not appear in your novel? (I have only just found out about it and thus have not been able to read it yet. I will, in time)<BR/>I guess it's right, though I can't get enough of Jas Hook (and would probably do my thesis on him if I ever had the courage to study for more than 3 years)<BR/><BR/>*sigh*Lewelyn-Hhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03715000519128992905noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7938459117789143606.post-61979397048705320042009-02-19T19:06:00.000-06:002009-02-19T19:06:00.000-06:00Thank you for reading my site. I'm glad you enjoy...Thank you for reading my site. I'm glad you enjoy it.<BR/><BR/>I double checked, and you do have me bested, in a way. I hunted through the book, and toward the end there is a mention of a watch hanging on the wall by a nail in Hook’s cabin. I'll get to why this slipped by me in a moment. As per the Hogan movie, it still does not make sense why there would be a collection of smashed watches. I mean, why would Smee <B>still</B> have a watch/clock by this time? (Pun noted.)<BR/><BR/>As for how I missed it, eventually Hook stopped being on my radar when it came time to research and write my novel. [Hook does not factor in to it as per his demise.] So a minor bit like that went out of my memory. (Too much like Peter Pan, I suppose.) Thanks for bringing it to my attention. And yes, it is curious that Hook would have a watch! Perhaps he disabled the ticking mechanism? Also, it is true of the Neverland itself - that there is no way to tell time. (Outside if Hook's cabin.)<BR/><BR/>And yes, Olivia Williams is the Mary Darling of our dreams. I agree her performance certainly helps make the film as great as it is. :) Rachel Hurd-Wood is also a wonderful Wendy. I just felt that I'd babbled way too much in the post as it is... <BR/>[Like now...] ;)Peter Von Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15042839698693906854noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7938459117789143606.post-50744175775240055292009-02-19T18:30:00.000-06:002009-02-19T18:30:00.000-06:00First off all, I want to say that I admire your bl...First off all, I want to say that I admire your blog, truly. It's nice to meet a fellow Neverlander ^^<BR/>Secondly, it's past one in the morning here, so my apologies if my comment seems slightly confused...<BR/><BR/>You said that "the only way to tell time in the Neverland is via the clock in the croc." but I recall a mention of Hook's watch in the novel? It struck me since I always thought any kind of ticking would freak James out... (I confess that I have been influenced by Spielberg's "Hook" and the Disney animated version)<BR/><BR/>Just a thought, I'm really not sure about this so I'll check later when my brain is actually functioning.<BR/><BR/>Oh one thing: how could you not mention Olivia William's magnificent take on Mrs Darling? She was so perfect my mouth hung open when she first came on screen...Lewelyn-Hhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03715000519128992905noreply@blogger.com